tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post4688665423660896738..comments2023-04-01T06:34:38.141-05:00Comments on Hyde Park Progress: Third-Party Review and other Sugar Plumschicago pophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17055796523227869734noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-84760084754030849512008-12-10T09:33:00.000-06:002008-12-10T09:33:00.000-06:00Two fascinating facts Peter has mentioned in the p...Two fascinating facts Peter has mentioned in the past and in this post: Burnham did not actually design the revetment (CPD engineers did), and the Caldwell landscaping is also historic. There are so many important, relatively unknown details in this complicated controversy. That's why the message "save" the Point is vague and over-simplified (but, I've always granted, it's also brilliant marketing).Elizabeth Famahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04931639156261179425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-89433089906168209592008-12-09T22:12:00.000-06:002008-12-09T22:12:00.000-06:00Greg -That hasn't happened to me yet. But it's qu...Greg -<BR/><BR/>That hasn't happened to me yet. But it's quite believable that, at any time, the Herald could go off into a limestone-induced limbo.Richard Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02773215580457414540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-33675883003096213612008-12-09T17:01:00.000-06:002008-12-09T17:01:00.000-06:00Is it just me or has the HPH website been farmed o...Is it just me or has the HPH website been farmed out to a webcrawler linkspam purveyor? Clicking on "Current Issue" takes me to an external spam site.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-59364662262625664382008-12-07T22:05:00.000-06:002008-12-07T22:05:00.000-06:00our mayor has heard to say -- I don't care if ...our mayor has heard to say -- I don't care if the Point falls into the lake, I'm never doing anything for those people."<BR/><BR/>It's funny how our local NIMBYs turn everything they touch to sh&t.Peter Rossihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15610159670466039455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-76501281250990079122008-12-07T19:59:00.000-06:002008-12-07T19:59:00.000-06:00EDJ is correct--There will be more pressing fundin...EDJ is correct--There will be more pressing funding priorities than the Point if the Olympics are held in Chicago. However, the south lakefront will be regarded as a showpiece, and a collapsed pile of limestone blocks would be an embarrassment for the city, and particularly for the mayor. If, somehow, Save-the-Pointers prevent a reasonable solution through the Third Party Review process, the mayor could simply say, "Enough of this BS, already. Build the compromise plan." Or something close to it. Then, let Save-the-Point & Company attempt a sit-in inside City Hall. I can't wait to see the police booking photos. <BR/><BR/>If funds fall short, maybe the new city parking meter concessionaire could put 24-hour meters in the 39th precinct, at say $6 per hour. Five of the six dollars would go to build the point. The last dollar would be for erecting a concrete faux-limestone wall around the precinct. No in-and-out privileges.Richard Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02773215580457414540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-3789510779529900912008-12-07T16:29:00.000-06:002008-12-07T16:29:00.000-06:00The only thing that I can see that might help push...The only thing that I can see that might help push this along would be Chicago winning the bid for the Olympics. The only problm with that wold be is that the Point would fall behind in priority behind a host of other projects. And it would still require the local match funding. The mayor does not have enough things to rent out to the private sector a la the parking meters to cover everything that needs to be done including public transit, the Olympic Village, streets, etc. I read that London is starting to regret their victory because of the economic slowdown hurting funding.edjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01593866936717576973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-84948323614603740522008-12-07T14:56:00.000-06:002008-12-07T14:56:00.000-06:00Another very clear and informative post on a very...Another very clear and informative post on a very tangled story that no one else is paying attention to. A glib rumor recently circulated that the steps outlined above could be completed by 2010 has nothing to back it up.<BR/><BR/>As with the Co-op, which was shut-down by members almost exactly one year ago now, neighborhood fantasies persist of following a certain course of action -- the increasingly ill-defined "Save the Point" campaign -- without regard to relevant constraints, in the belief that with only enough optimism and outside money, Hyde Park can continue to exist as a cozy dome of exceptionalism where the laws of retail, lending, and accounting (in the case of the Co-Op) or of engineering, accessibity for the disabled, and protection of lakefront landfill, and maybe even gravity, can be wished away if a certain minority declares it possible.chicago pophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17055796523227869734noreply@blogger.com