tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post8186832722294579331..comments2023-04-01T06:34:38.141-05:00Comments on Hyde Park Progress: Herald's Chicken: Tree Removal Irks Rainey Ave Homeownerschicago pophttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17055796523227869734noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-80679017117514321432008-02-06T09:54:00.000-06:002008-02-06T09:54:00.000-06:00Richard, I like C-Pop's idea that the anonymous H...Richard, I like C-Pop's idea that the anonymous Harper Ave. resident feared being featured as the next NIMBY in Hyde Park Progress's running series NIMBY'S CORNER.<BR/><BR/>Of course, she still suffered that fate, but mercifully anonymously.Elizabeth Famahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04931639156261179425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-90062366156668502492008-02-05T20:38:00.000-06:002008-02-05T20:38:00.000-06:00Elizabeth is right - this is a blog, not newspaper...Elizabeth is right - this is a blog, not newspaper journalism. A blog is essentially a conversation, and participants can use pseudonyms if they so wish.<BR/><BR/>A newspaper, however, is expected to use quotes in stories as part of objective news. Anonymity there is normally granted only in very limited circumstances, such as fear of severe reprisal. The papers usually say something about the reason, such as, "...said a source who asked not to be named due to the sensitive nature of the negotiations."<BR/><BR/>That being said, what did the person quoted in the Herald's "clear cutting" article have to fear by giving their name? Pea gravel (whatever that is), as suggested in Peter Rossi's satirical post? The head of a dead horse in bed? A flood of building inspectors at a termite-infested house? Invalidation of a Metra ten-ride ticket to Blue Island? <BR/><BR/>And the Herald did nothing for its own credibility when it allowed the nameless person to get away with it in such an inane story. The Herald at least should have written, "...said a homeowner who wished to remain anonymous for fear of appearing stupid."<BR/><BR/>One might be forgiven for thinking, "It's the Hyde Park Herald, not newspaper journalism."Richard Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02773215580457414540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-57567594100228672802008-02-05T17:30:00.000-06:002008-02-05T17:30:00.000-06:00C-Pop, Is it an invisibility cloak? Huh? Is it? ...C-Pop, Is it an invisibility cloak? Huh? Is it? Cuz I'd really like to see one of those.<BR/><BR/>I'd just like to say to anyone who doesn't like Chicago Pop's anonymity that, as George Bailey once said, "You...You're thinkin' of this place all wrong." This is not newspaper journalism, this is a blog. Even people who supposedly identify themselves on the Internet are not always who they say they are. People have a right to a little privacy if they want it...if they can manage it. Besides, any ol' body can reach Chicago Pop at his gmail address, and a real, live, quite kind (if somewhat acid-witted) human being will respond.Elizabeth Famahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04931639156261179425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-69601750649337754482008-02-05T14:46:00.000-06:002008-02-05T14:46:00.000-06:00Speaking of hiding behind a cloak of anonymity, I'...Speaking of hiding behind a cloak of anonymity, I'm going to momentarily peek out from beneath my cloak and make it clear that for those who care enough, it is entirely possible to legally determine my true identity. chicago pop is my blogger handle. But ask me on the street if I'm chicago pop, and I'd tell you. That might be the end of the conversation, but I'd tell you.chicago pophttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17055796523227869734noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-91200463100550959432008-02-05T09:06:00.000-06:002008-02-05T09:06:00.000-06:00Peter -I should have said "reasonably balanced, gi...Peter -<BR/><BR/>I should have said "reasonably balanced, given that it's the Herald." They may have loaded the gripe-stuff at the front end, but they did give space to the reasonable and explanatory responses of Metra and the Alderman's office. What bothered me most was that the Herald took "a nothing" and turned it into "a something", but that's par for their course. <BR/><BR/>The headline is next on my list of criticisms of the article--it made it sound like everyone on the street had risen up in rebellion, when basically they heard from one person who hid behind a cloak of anonymity. Oh well, more fodder for Hyde Park Progress's mill.Richard Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02773215580457414540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-49004599576979726302008-02-04T23:08:00.000-06:002008-02-04T23:08:00.000-06:00I don't agree with Richard onthe article. Yes, th...I don't agree with Richard onthe article. Yes, the Herald reporter did try to get the other point of view (but put it at the end of the article).<BR/><BR/>There are many instances of editorializing in the story and headline. How can you use the term "clear-cutting?" for esxample?<BR/><BR/>The entire business about "highway grass" as a invasive species. The reporter didn't even bother to google "highway grass." What kind of reporter is this who accepts, unchallenged, the word of anyone?Peter Rossihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15610159670466039455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-629983216114234412008-02-03T21:11:00.000-06:002008-02-03T21:11:00.000-06:00Strangely, the actual Herald article that inspired...Strangely, the actual Herald article that inspired "Tree Removal Irks Rainey Ave. Homeowners," came across as reasonably balanced. Probably, this is because the Herald didn't realize how silly the homeowners' complaints sound. Peter Rossi sure realized it. <BR/><BR/>And consider the Herald's headline, "Metra riles Harper Ave. with clearcutting move." When the Hyde Park Establishment gripes, leave it to the Herald to side with the gripers and crank up the volume.Richard Gillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02773215580457414540noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-87673635624536420542008-02-03T13:20:00.000-06:002008-02-03T13:20:00.000-06:00"news" is right!"news" is right!Peter Rossihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15610159670466039455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-15708316488654821122008-02-03T01:43:00.000-06:002008-02-03T01:43:00.000-06:00otto this is another testOho!.<I>otto this is another test</I><BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://tinyurl.com/28x99f" REL="nofollow">Oho!</A>.Ottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05290441585366899781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-44172927983414311192008-02-02T22:19:00.000-06:002008-02-02T22:19:00.000-06:00It's clear it's a joke, it just may not be clear t...It's clear it's a joke, it just may not be clear that it's spoofing a very particular thing. As a joke it could seem like it's targeted at your neighbors. As a spoof of a specific "news" story, it's a more lighthearted raspberry at the <I>Herald</I>.Elizabeth Famahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04931639156261179425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-86485798564633379342008-02-02T20:46:00.000-06:002008-02-02T20:46:00.000-06:00This is Ground Control to Major Tom....This is Ground Control to Major Tom....Famachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11117327917074489292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-83540774444279029822008-02-02T16:07:00.000-06:002008-02-02T16:07:00.000-06:00Is it possible to read a post with names like robi...Is it possible to read a post with names like <BR/><BR/>robin krank<BR/>doris white-nimby<BR/>hans christian forester<BR/>smokeless da dear<BR/><BR/>and this this is not a joke?<BR/><BR/>OK, I see that I will have to be more obvious.<BR/><BR/>I will have to be more obvious (otto this is another test, which films are these used in?)<BR/><BR/>Egbert Souse (accent grave over e)<BR/>Otis Scribbleotis<BR/>Mahatma Kane Jeeves<BR/>Charles Bogle<BR/>Larsen E. Whipsnade<BR/>Mortimer SnerdPeter Rossihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15610159670466039455noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-18701218539733573242008-02-02T14:07:00.000-06:002008-02-02T14:07:00.000-06:00It came to my attention today that newer readers o...It came to my attention today that newer readers or non-Hyde-Parkers may not realize that the <I>Herald's Chicken</I> feature spoofs recent <I>Hyde Park Herald</I> articles.Elizabeth Famahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04931639156261179425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-21578269350452161072008-02-02T05:14:00.000-06:002008-02-02T05:14:00.000-06:00Burgher vs. Burgher, then?Burgher vs. Burgher, then?Ottohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05290441585366899781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-28110581005523705612008-02-01T20:12:00.000-06:002008-02-01T20:12:00.000-06:00There is so much more to complain about on Harper ...There is so much more to complain about on Harper than those trees. I used to live there. <BR/><BR/>Right along the east side of the street is a guy who has a huge junk collection taking up every square foot of his property. <BR/><BR/>When I lived on Harper I was always aggravated by his ever-expanding landfill.<BR/><BR/>I know someone who moved from Harper to find "people that cared about their property."<BR/><BR/>So there you have it: beat up on Metra for tree trimming, but let the Crazy Man with 1MM cats destroy the street.Famachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11117327917074489292noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-89327875655696440592008-02-01T11:16:00.000-06:002008-02-01T11:16:00.000-06:00lolThat pretty much sums it up, Peter.lol<BR/>That pretty much sums it up, Peter.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17187180492307593036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4186587935097536129.post-45369069731427082142008-02-01T10:51:00.000-06:002008-02-01T10:51:00.000-06:00I'm new to your blog (though I've been in Woodlawn...I'm new to your blog (though I've been in Woodlawn for 9 years) and am loving it. This little ditty is durn funny. I frequently park on Rainey Ave to take the Metra downtown, and the decrepit state of some of those homes blows me away. If HPers are so hell-bent on preservation, why don't they enforce maintenance?IHeartLenoxLohrhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09767465069254351192noreply@blogger.com